Beer and Wine??

November 11, 2006 at 1:57 pm 31 comments

This past election day, some of our Metroplex neighbors voted on bring beer and wine sales to their cities. What are your thoughts about the sale of beer and wine in Cedar Hill? 

Does Cedar Hill need beer and wine stores?
Will having beer and wine stores in Cedar Hill change the identity of the city? 
What are the benefits?

Tell us what you think.

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  • 1. Tom and Maggie Knedler  |  November 12, 2006 at 12:54 am

    We are against having liquor stores in Cedar Hill. Just coming from Duncanville, we could see all the traffic around the liquor store as well as all the trash that is found on the roadside there.
    If we want to buy some wine or beer, we are used to travel to a location that sells liquor. That Cedar Hill didn’t have liquor stores was one of the deciding factors for us to move here years ago. The quality of life for those living in Cedar Hill will be impacted by having businesses selling liquor, we believe. There will be more traffic, more trash, and more safety concerns to think about.
    There already is more than enough trash on the sides of the roads in Cedar Hill. Do we really need more of this? We don’t think so.

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  • 2. Kyle A. Miller  |  November 12, 2006 at 6:30 am

    My wife and I agree 100% with what Tom and Maggie Knedler side.

    As a family that lives close to the Duncanville border, I can attest to see more alcohol refuse around the area.

    We don’t need it. It will compromise the quality of life here.

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  • 3. John & Debbie Perrin  |  November 12, 2006 at 10:10 pm

    We are definitely against having liquor stores in our Cedar Hill neighborhood. We feel that it would degrade the neighborhood and bring in a bad environment to the neighborhood. We are striving for a safe, healthy environment in Cedar Hill and liquor stores would certainly be a deterrant to a safe neighborhood. We also feel it would decrease, not increase the value of our property. There are no benefits in having liquor stores in Cedar Hill.

    Thank you for asking our opinion.

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  • 4. Tracy Ware  |  November 12, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    I don’t think we need beer and wine sales. I think this is a very nice, family oriented community. I love it here, and we can go a short distance to go get alcohol.

    It is not necessary to have it here.

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  • 5. Betsy Simnacher  |  November 12, 2006 at 10:55 pm

    I’m definitely in favor of liquor sales in Cedar Hill. I do not think it will increase the number of discarded beer cans. We already see those with regularity in our yards.

    People are drinking anyway. Why give all the tax proceeds to Duncanville?

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  • 6. Jill C.  |  November 13, 2006 at 2:20 am

    Once upon a time people had to drive across the river or to Tarrant Co. to buy beer and wine. Now they only have to go to Duncanville. And we can order drinks in many restaurants here in Cedar Hill with no hassle. Why would we need beer and wine or liquor stores here? You’d have to prove to my husband and myself that it would be such a tremendous economic advantage and that it would be worth the added problems (under age sales, litter, attraction/temptation to people with drinking problems, etc.) such businesses bring before we’d even consider voting in favor of it. Please, let’s not go there. Let’s continue working to be that city on a hill and be a good example to other communities around us.

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  • 7. hppid  |  November 13, 2006 at 2:37 am

    Cedar Hill already has beer, wine and mixed drinks available in selected restaurants. You can even serve alcohol in the City Recreation Center. Not having beer and wine sales in the City is only depriving us of sales tax revenue that is now going to Duncanville, Grand Prairie and other surrounding cities. An argument can be made that not having local wine and beer sales increases accident exposure because one must leave Cedar Hill in order to purchase beer and wine. A strong case can be made for authorizing sales of beer and wine, and perhaps even “brown goods” (distilled liquors) in grocery stores which are above a certain size in retail space and/or with a certain level of sales volume. Several years ago when Denton authorized beer and wine sales they restricted it to certain supermarkets. By doing this you can eliminate sales at stand-alone stores, quick shops, gasoline stations, and small corner grocery stores, i.e., Super Ice House. we suspect you can also restrict sales to only non-chilled items. While not in favor of across the board alcohol sales, restricted sales have a place and will add to the sales tax revenue stream.

    Annette & Rod Reed

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  • 8. Rob Franke  |  November 13, 2006 at 3:47 am

    I am against retails sales of beer and wine in Cedar Hill. I believe we have excellent economic development opportunity which has resulted in excellent land values and a lot of good businesses coming to Cedar Hill. Our strongest emphasis and greatest need is for additional office development to provide opportunity for people to live and work in Cedar Hill. I believe the proliferation of beer and wine stores would create a lot of bad land-use decisions and take away our opportunity for the type of development that our citizens desire for their home. I appreciate the desire of retail establishments to increase their sales and revenue, however, the businesses came to Cedar Hill knowing the rules and character of this city. I am not willing to take step backward in our progress, I am not willing to take a chance with our distinctive character, and I do not thing we need to beging trying to be like any other city; we need to continue setting our own direction and not get caught up in the latest fad other cities pursue.
    Rob

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  • 9. Juan & Corina Ayala  |  November 13, 2006 at 4:45 am

    We are against the sale of beer & wine in our city of Cedar Hill.
    We think the absence of these sales makes our area safer. We think the sale of beer and wine could have a negative effect on the quality of life in our community.

    Juan & Corina Ayala

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  • 10. Jo-Ellen E. Markle  |  November 13, 2006 at 3:06 pm

    I am echoing the comments I have read. I am against the sales of bear and wine in our city of Cedar Hill. I think the absence of these sales has made our area safe. I do not see how the sale of such items will enhance our community. I see great potential for it hindering our youth, and children. This is a step back in the development of this community, and a potential domino effect for other less family oriented establishments.

    Jo-Ellen E. Markle

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  • 11. Terry Jones  |  November 14, 2006 at 12:22 am

    I see on benefit to the citixens of Cedar Hill to have beer and wine sold here. It will noly add to the crime rate, trash every where, and drunk drivers and public drinking. More consideratrion should be given to reducing senior citizens school taxes and public transportation.

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  • 12. Debra Brown  |  November 15, 2006 at 6:58 pm

    I’m totally in agreement with the others regarding no beer & wine in Cedar Hill. I enjoy the family atmosphere in Cedar Hill and to incorporate liquor would be a disaster to the communities and families of Cedar Hill. Sometime, we need to ask what’s really important to us the value of families or dollars in the bank. Once again, I’m totally against the sales of beer & wine. Thanks!!!!

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  • 13. Amber Ross  |  November 15, 2006 at 7:01 pm

    I agree and disagree with the comments made above. I think that allowing beer and wine sales will in no way have a detrimental effect on Cedar Hill. It would only increase city revenue. However, I do not believe that liquor should be sold. I think it should be limited to beer and wine. Moreover, I wouldn’t want to see large retail or grocery stores carry it.

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  • 14. Steve & Lizla Emerick  |  November 15, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    We completely agree with our Mayor. We also applaud those who take the same position. One of the reasons we moved to Cedar Hill was because it did not allow beer and wine to be sold retail. I also agree that office development would be better use of our land.

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  • 15. Michael T.  |  November 17, 2006 at 5:54 pm

    I am totally against the sale of beer and wine in Cedar Hill. The perceived notion that there would be economic benefits realized is a weak defense of the theory “the end justifies the means”. We are expanding our tax base by encouraging companies who add value to the Cedar Hill community. Liquor,beer, and wine sales in our community at the retail level has consequences we really don’t need.

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  • 16. Mrs. Mary Jones  |  November 20, 2006 at 1:09 am

    I don’t think that Cedar Hill needs to add the sale of beer and wine to the city’s tax revenue base. There are more creative, artistic, meaningful and socially acceptable ways to add money to the city’s treasury.
    Though the originators of such a proposal may have initially had the opinion that it won’t cause that much moral decay, decline of property values, and destruction to our quaint little city, that opinion will surely be changed.
    To approve this motion will signal the beginning of an increased need for the city to send out clean up crews to pick up discarded alcoholic containers, and police sirens will increase as they speed to a rising number of domestic disturbance calls.
    The sale of alcoholic beverages also is a “calling card” to the establishment of a “Red Light” district— and who want to see ladies of the night standing on corners in the Cedar Hill?
    It is time to take a stand against this type of lifestyle in our fair and descent city.

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  • 17. Michael and Wendy Harris  |  November 20, 2006 at 3:53 am

    We are against beer and wine sales in Cedar Hill. We believe it would lower the quality of life. Just take a trip to a store that sells alcohol…how does the area look? What type of people are hanging around? Do you feel just a little nervous while you are in the store? We hope Cedar Hill never approves beer and wine sales.

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  • 18. pamela munson  |  November 20, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    We have lived in Cedar Hill for 12 years and we do not want Beer and Wine sold in our city. Let’s keep it as clean as possible.

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  • 19. Clyde & cherry Houston  |  November 20, 2006 at 5:02 pm

    We have lived in Cedar Hill for a number of years , and have very much enjoyed the quality of life here.

    We have always felt a sense of security for ourselves ,and that same sense of security for our children and grandchildren.

    As we address the issue of beer and wine being sold in our great city our answer is an” emphatically “no.

    As a result of all the retail shops that have sprung up over the last few years , we already have enough outside traffic coming into our community.

    The selling of liquor would bring other undesirable activities into our community. Lets just leave things the way they are and “DITCH” this idea of bringing the sell of liquor into our community.

    Thank You for allowing us to voice our Comments.

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  • 20. Tom and Maggie Knedler  |  November 20, 2006 at 5:59 pm

    I love reading all these comments concering liquor sales in Cedar Hill!
    It seems that the majority of people responding in this forum are against the idea of selling liquor in our city.
    I, too, applaud our mayor for bringing this to our attention and for taking a strong stand for the community.
    Tax revenues may be lost, but what else will be lost if liquor sales will be allowed? As one commentor wrote “look at the areas around liquor stores”……should we invite this in our neighborhoods? I say NO!

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  • 21. Dana Roberson  |  November 26, 2006 at 11:00 pm

    I must say I am totally against having any sort of Beer, Wine and/or liquor store in Cedar Hill. I am a family of 6 which includes 4 children and I moved to this community away from that type of ennvironment. I am not concerned with the money it will bring to Cedar Hill. I am only concerned with the environment and surroundings of my family. Cedar Hill has made this an enjoyable family oriented city, where comfort and safety is welcomed. Please do not dissappointed the vast majority of the families that live here. Say no to inviting liquor stores/store to our family community. Besides the stores in Duncanville are close enough as it is. We do not want this type of traffic in our city. We have a beautiful community, super stores, nice restaurants, and soon to be new mall; we do not need a single liquor store to degrade it. Again please say no to the liquor store.

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  • 22. Mae Thomas and Family  |  November 27, 2006 at 7:16 am

    Our family has been here for 18 years and this is a great family oriented community and we are christians and cannot but help to abhor the liquor and wine sales in Cedar Hill. Passing a law to legalize alcohol is but a catalist for the increase of crime that already exists! It seems sensless that the sale of alcohol would seem to be more benifitial to our community than extending the public transportation lines out to our area.

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  • 23. Shawnetta Murray  |  November 27, 2006 at 8:57 pm

    I am the mother of two young children. Two reasons for moving to Cedar Hill were the sense of security and the quality of life that I believed that this city offered to me and my family. It is my belief that allowing the sale of beer, wine and liquor will decrease our sense of security. Any one that will research the effect the these drinks have on a community will discover that drinking and driving is a major concern. And I believe that it will be no different for Cedar Hill. Money will never be more important than the safety of our children.

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  • 24. David L. Jones  |  November 28, 2006 at 8:34 pm

    We do not need to sell beer and wine in the city of Cedar Hill
    because, it will do nothing but increase the death fatality by
    drunk drivers.

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  • 25. Diann Johnson  |  November 28, 2006 at 2:41 pm

    I’m totally against the sales of beer & wine.
    When my family and i moved to Cedar Hill , we were fortunate
    enough to purchase our property on Tranquility ln.
    Tranquility means to be free from agiatation or disturbance: Quiet
    serene, placid and peaceful. I have experience that tranquil
    atmosphere in our commuinity for the last five years. I strongly
    believe the sales of beer & wine would filter our community with neg ative traffic and provide an unwholesome environment for our great city.
    THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL THAT REACH DOWN, NOT LOOK
    DOWN, TO LIFT YOU UP!

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  • 26. Johnny & Nancy Ruffin  |  November 28, 2006 at 9:37 pm

    We are in agreement with all the other 25 residents that are against having the sales of liquor in Cedar Hill, we feel there is enough beer and wine sold already here. Not to mention the risk of more drunk drivers and our youths having more assessibility to alcohol. Cedar Hill is a beautiful city and we love it here, but if it becomes a dumpy looking place like a lot of other communities become when people don’t care about where they live and how their city looks we will surely relocate. Our city represents the people who lives here, the question is how do we want to be represented. We can easily go to other neighbor hoods and see what’s happening there and see if tf the sales of liquor has been a positive or a negative for their communities. So we say “NO” to the sale of liquor.

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  • 27. Torsha Green  |  November 28, 2006 at 10:06 pm

    I am totally against the selling of beer, wine, or any alcoholic beverages in Cedar Hill. I strongly believe, it would greatly decrease the quality of life as we know it. There would be an increase in crime and loitering. As it has been witnessed in several other communities around the metroplex. Not only will this invite negative attention it will also create a tense atmosphere for many in the community. Please do not appove…

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  • 28. Billy Poole  |  November 28, 2006 at 10:59 pm

    The selling of beer and wine in Cedar Hill would a recipe for disaster and I am vehemently opposed to the idea. Why would the city of Cedar Hill want to “whore” itself out to the beer and wine establishment all in the name of “generating revenue?” What a poor argument for those who support such a measure. The degradation of our city that would ensue would be its eventual demise, leaving Cedar Hill to follow in the footsteps of Duncanville and Grand Prairie – the “armpits” of the metroplex! Who can deny that the refuse, “riff-raff” and crime associated with these establishments would rob Cedar Hill of its ‘Quality of Life’. Ask yourself, “What’s next?” Adult bookstores? Where will it end? Support me in defeating this measure (idea) before it ever comes to fruition.

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  • 29. shirleydaniels  |  December 4, 2006 at 7:17 pm

    i AM TOTALLY AGAINST LIQUOR IN CEDAR HILL. I SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH IT BEING SO CLOSE TO DUNCANVILLE WHICH IS WET. THE CRIME IS FILTRATING INTO OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY. OUR PROPERTY BASE WILL DECREASE. NO CITY PROSPERS WHEN IT BECOMES WET. I AM AS A HOMEOWNER IN CEDAR HILL AGAINST OUR CITY BECOMING WET.

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  • 30. Atticus Thomas  |  December 7, 2006 at 7:43 am

    I believe sales of beer and wine TO GO would create less trouble than having liquor sold for on-premise consumption–which is already available in restaurants.

    If someone wants to buy a six-pack, they generally take it home before consuming it. Then if they overindulge, it is their own problem.

    I would tend to agree that allowing a beer joint which sold nothing but beer and wine for on-premise consumption might not be as desirable for Cedar Hill as the tax revenue it would bring in.

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  • 31. Gloria Daniel  |  December 7, 2006 at 8:32 pm

    I am totally against liquor in our community, I believe it would decrease the property value. It will endanger our childrens safety and also make it easy for our minors to purchase beer and wine (Lets be honest with ourselves, all of our merchants do not adhere to the laws of the land, there is always that one bad apple). We need to try to keep our city safe for the children’s sake. Let us not make them victims and face the consequences of a bad decision we made as adults, when this can be avoided.

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